streching techniсs

[Grot]

Hi, there.
Some questions about streching for good mawashi-geris. Is there any technics you using? Coz i really wanna hear an answer from kyokushin guys.

I looked on the internet for streching and didnt really find any good advices. So i desided just to strech as hard as i can. Next day i couldnt walk. I repited same exersize about a week. Didnt really work good for me. Day after streching it was really pain to strech again and it didnt really helped me so i quited to do that thing. But now my left leg kinda not reaching up to jordan at all.

So what is ur advice?
Osu!

[vapor]

Could you go into detail to help us understand the kind of stretching you did, when you say "stretch as hard as I can"?

What exactly did you do?

vapor

[Grot]

just the side split
have no problem with straight kicks, only side kicks like yoko geris and mawashis

[Bruce]

There's a previous thread that covers a lot of stretching issues - got's some good links to other sites with excellent advice, I found the dynamic stretching one particularly useful personllay....now if only someone else can remember which thread it was...........

It sounds like to me that your hamstrings are fine but you need to concentrate your efforts on the muscles of your groin, hips, butt and lower back to give you the flexibility that you need to execute mawashi geris. Best bit of advice i can give you - practice every day! It makes a huge difference. Sit on the floor and watch TV for 10 minutes a day in the splits gradually improving the stretch.....

[Lucy]

http://kyokushin4life.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1849 hip flexability tecniques

[Bruce]

Thanks Lucy for assisting my lack of memory.

[Lucy]

http://kyokushin4life.com/forums/sho...?t=1421&page=2

i posted some exercises for stretching back muscles which in turn would help with your mawashi's

[Cerian]

Hi
I'm new to this so thought I'd reply to one of these. :]
I've fought clicker and knockdown for Wales and part of my fighting routine relies on jodan kicks; mawashi's and such.
I'm naturally quite flexible. But I also find to push extra, I stretch also out of the dojo after warming up. That's maybe why you found it hard to walk due to not warming up to the right extent.
Also I find after a bath or running or some form of exercise which gets you heated up that it's best to stretch.
Firstly I do box splits, then turn left side split, right side split, left side split, ride side split... Then back into the box splits, and then sit and move my head as far as possible to my knee while stretching for my ankle and middle. And finish my rotating my hips. :]
Hope that helps.

[boldbhoy]

Hi, I read a good book lately which was recommended by a top martial artist. The book is ' Stretching scientifically' byThomas Kurz. He places a lot of emphasis on the types of stretches and most important.... the sequence and amount. i.e. isometric stretches are the fastest to get results, but only do them 3 days out of 7. He also says to do dynamic and not static stretches first to warm up the muscles. I can't really comment as i've just started his methods. Hope this helps. OSU !!

[boldbhoy]

P.S. Mr Kurz also warns against exercise such as cycling as he reckons this is detrimental to flexibility.Instead he recommends running as the muscles work through a full range of motion. Maybe that's a bit controversial, but he backs this up with scientific facts. If I can do the splits in 6 months i will recommend the book. Anyone that has seen me fight cant tell the difference between my gedan and jodan mawashis (hee hee) but i get bye.

[BigAl]

http://www.drillsandskills.com/stretching

My new favorite place for stretching. Gymnastic-style stretches,

[Grot]

Osu!
Tnx for replying.

[Grot]

Alright, did my first exercize today.
Ok, thats how i did it.
As boldbhoy sad: "The book is ' Stretching scientifically' byThomas Kurz. He places a lot of emphasis on the types of stretches and most important.... the sequence and amount. i.e. isometric stretches are the fastest to get results, but only do them 3 days out of 7."
So i decided to do isometric streches 3 days out of 7. The other 4 days i decided to work on my sinews and joints.
As i dont have so much space at home so i warmed up with mai geris, ma keages, mawashi keages. Then i did a couple of yoku keages to make sure i warm enough. After that i went down to splits.
So, the first question, should i do all splits without a break? Or i have to repeat it like 3 times?

[Spirit]

I stopped stretching many years ago (15 or so), and I can still kick to the head and over... cold .
It is a matter of how you get to and how you train your bodyto develope.

I have always stated to kick the bag before stretching. training your body to do the things yoou wish. you don't stretch each morning before walking etc do you , NO. your body will learn if you teach it.
start off slowly and work on it each day after many years you will be at a point of not needing to stretch so much or not at all!!!

I see many yudansha that I train, who can due full splits, yet none can kick as high & with power as they should be able to. watch the world combat league fighters, those guys are all stretched, out yet their kicks are weak and flap in the wind?!?

[Bruce]

I think you're right Jap Man - I consider my self to pretty flexible but something is definately lacking in my kicks, I've always done static stretching and I'm convinced that you need to do dynamic stretching having started to see an improvement since I began doing it (following the advice on a previous thread). I might see if I can do as you've suggested and start working the bag to see if I can get even more improvement. My problem is the bag is hanging in my back garden and I live in rain world (England!).

[Spirit]

Originally Posted by Bruce

I think you're right Jap Man - I consider my self to pretty flexible but something is definately lacking in my kicks, I've always done static stretching and I'm convinced that you need to do dynamic stretching having started to see an improvement since I began doing it (following the advice on a previous thread). I might see if I can do as you've suggested and start working the bag to see if I can get even more improvement. My problem is the bag is hanging in my back garden and I live in rain world (England!).

Bruce, floor based bags may work best for you...

even if you just do your kicking in the air (in mirror best and use ankle weights) before stretching, that to will help.

[Bruce]

Osu Jap Man

I tried warming up doing keages, followed by mawashis and it worked really well - Thanks for the good advice!

[Spirit]

Originally Posted by Bruce

Osu Jap Man

I tried warming up doing keages, followed by mawashis and it worked really well - Thanks for the good advice!

only to happy to help